tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25637657.post7360209071866582906..comments2024-03-29T12:36:41.063+11:00Comments on New England, Australia: Saving New England from the dump heap of historyJim Belshawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25637657.post-2603782887903606262010-11-06T06:24:32.225+11:002010-11-06T06:24:32.225+11:00Hi Augustus
You have a remarkable fund of knowled...Hi Augustus<br /><br />You have a remarkable fund of knowledge!I know very little about heraldry; the number and placement of legs was something that esacped me.<br /><br />Max reckons that his Dad used a Finnish lion. However, I will have a look at the Manx one.Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25637657.post-65463662989797435062010-11-05T22:17:21.973+11:002010-11-05T22:17:21.973+11:00Hi Jim
I listened with great interest to your ram...Hi Jim <br />I listened with great interest to your rampant lion quest and I wish you luck. However I note that the lion has only three legs and one arm (this being aloft with the sword)This may be significant in your quest for its origin. <br /><br />I may be able to help.<br />You see the isle of Mann is represented by three legs and would appear to be a detail of the arms of the Kings of Man on the Priest's tomb (probably that of Edward IV's chaplain de Grimsby)<br /> <br />Interestingly although the early representations showed the legs running clockwise (supporting the supposition they are derived from a sun symbol) later representations showed both clockwise and anticlockwise. This latter case gave rise to the pun:<br /><br />With one leg I spurn Ireland,<br />With the second I kick Scotland,<br />And with the third I kneel to England.<br /><br />And, Jim so possibly what we may have here is a derivation of Gules, three legs armed, conjoined in fesse at the upper part of the thighs, flexed in triangle, garnished and spurred. <br /><br />By the way that is not a spelling error "fesse" is of Heraldry consisting of a horizontal band across a shield, conventionally occupying a third of its length and being wider than a bar<br />[from Anglo-French fesse, from Latin fascia band, fillet]<br /><br />And so my friend I leave you with much to ponder. Good Luck with your quest!<br /><br />sincerely<br />AWAugustus Winstonnoreply@blogger.com